We have football today so email are on their way for everything. Results for the trials yesterday and todays selections so far are in the posts below this one. Lots to go through today, we have the reviews starting soon, a Bullion update which an FTS member has found another 2K profit which is exactly the sort of thing I want from this site and time for a moan by me in response to a couple of emails. So please read on and take it all in.
When I mentioned my bad run yesterday I was not pleading poverty or making excuses for a few bad results as some people intimated by email. I have won a small amount of money in that time it has just seemed like harder work this last few months and I have made a few cock ups, Everton Wigan in December huge cock up, not laying Barca when 1-0 up at the Emirates because I was being greedy for a price and the two matches this week. It is not a problem life goes on and I always win in the end.
I often wonder what makes people tick when they send an email and more often than not I lie in bed last thing at night thinking abut emails I have received that day. I currently get around 500- 1000 emails a day through the site, most of which is garbage. However people (and I have covered this many times) do like to vent off via email and I wonder if they would do so face to face.
Here is an email I received Tuesday and after what has happened since I can look back and laugh and hope the guy stuck to his word. I have published it verbatim and I promise you I could not make this up!
Ian
I am sick of all your bullshit, health stories and other crap you post on the blog. The new reviews are complete shit, Dave over £2000 down, Cannon bollocks never going to win and all the rest. You keep mentioning JG his service is crap I have bet some of his shit but will not be betting or getting anything from FTS, Mark Smith shit, Bullion shit, Dutch bollocks shit so f**k o** and take me off your list and eat your own shit!!
Now I won’t publish his name but he clearly has anger issues and something happened to trigger that outburst. Now the bit that stands out to me is the bit where he says I am not betting any of that again. I checked with Sharon and he is a current JG subscriber for a start
Since Tuesday JG has had the following amongst his advice. Now JG bettors will be reading this so can post comments to verify this is not made up
Kadouchski Adv 20/1 Won
Aviador Adv 22/1 Won
Rossbrin Adv 16/1 Won
Introvert Adv 13/2 Won
Little Green Adv 8/1 Won
Bally Legend Adv 10/1 Won
Melbury Adv 14/1 Placed
Cantlow Adv 11/2 Won
Looks Like Slim Adv 8/1 Placed
Now I will give anyone a grand who finds a racing bettor who can top those results all those bets were on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Simply you won’t. I hope with all my heart my email friend missed the lot and reads this.
The Loose Cannons he mentioned is a trial and went from nearly £500 down to in profit in one day yesterday who know how it will end up. Daves trial Lays are losing but winning with my filter. Mark Smith and Peter put loads of work in to finding some great value touches, Bullion I have shown has made over £4300 and I improved it to over £5000 with a simple filter. An FTS member has taken that to £7000 and more on that in a bit. Dutch and Win constantly makes money using my method. So the question begs, what makes this guy tick, it does not upset me it just fascinates me as that is real anger. When someone signs up to any service I would like to think it is to make money although I realise that more often than not, that is not the case they are looking for easy money. Now when mailing in, are these people basically saying I can do better? If so go and do better and save your typing fingers! The one concern of it all is my children use my computer and my emails pop up in the corner as they arrive should they be subjected to mail like that? I really hope he did not place one bet and continues to be a total loser as his language intimates!
I get emails from moaners all the time particularly after a 0-0 FTS or something and dread opening the inbox the next morning. I also get emails questioning selections all the time, as if someone wants to prove they are right and I or one of the trialists is wrong. Gambling is about opinion and if that is your opinion I really do not need to know it nor does anyone else. The only people I want to hear from are winners. Now it may sound like I am moaning I am not. I am very excited about this whole site and set up going forward and can see huge profitability, I just have to accept that being online anyone can access it and in the world we have a number of complete arses who will lose. My setting up www.thegamblingacademy.com was to sort the numpties from the serious ones and that has worked to a good degree with many good stories and mindsets being sent to me. By the way will have news on Issues 13-24 this week.
In each newsletter those who have them know I end each one with a small quote. I like quotes, they are pearls of wisdom normally from successful people. For my friend above and all those of you that jump from system to system here is a quote to take on board
“Consider the postage stamp…. it secures success through its ability to stick to one thing till it gets there”
Enough on that now sometimes you just have to get it out there!
Back to the site. The new set up I was hoping for 1st March but the techies behind the site are a tad slow so the new site will not be online by then. However we are starting the review process from this week and we have about 10 products all set and ready to go and more to come. You will notice a new link in the top menu of this page saying Betting System Reviews. Until the new site is ready I will start posting results on that page from Tuesday onwards. I have mailed some reviewers and will continue to complete those set ups over the weekend. Anyone who asked for a review that I have not mailed yet you are on the list and I will send out reviews as and when I have products set up. It is a timely process (more timely than I thought). The reviews will mainly be existing products that are readily available on the market now and will be reviewed by members of the FTS community without my input. Not to be confused with the trials running currently which are not live products yet, they are just being trialled for profitability if any and I will keep an eye on those. For transparency reviews will have affiliate links and if successful any purchases that produce earnings 50% will go to the reviewer of that product and the rest into the FTS site for more reviews etc.
Tomorrow I will award some £50 prizes for comments and emails recieved. I will be going through email tomorrow and Monday so if waiting for an answer you should get it tomorrow.
Now onto Bullion and an exact vision of what I want this site to achieve. I published a review of the product from November to Feb this year and using the exact manual method it made £4300 in 3 months. By applying a simple rule myself of setting a max of 8.0 to modify it made an extra £1300 profit. Yesterday an FTS subscriber Graham took that profit to over £7000 with a further modification.
If you only lay one horse per race in a “Double Horse” race, and make it only the 2nd favourite you lay, this takes your profit up by £2000.
In order to understand that you can download the spreadsheet Graham sent me below, which has his table and explanation on it. Now £7000 is over 2k a month and that is decent earnings from a laying product. I want to thank Grham immensely as his mail yesterday is exactly what I want, ALL OF US helping each other as a gambling community on FTS to maximise profit. There a lot of clever people read this site, cleverer than me. Let the idiot punters and scammers continue their marriage of losing!
If you did not read my original Bullion Post which also has a spreadsheet of results you can READ IT HERE
You can download Grahams Spreadsheet HERE
If you want the steady profit puller that is Betfair Bullion. You can get it HERE
I think that is enough from me, I will keep you updated on the reviews, Trials etc will continue and we will continue winning. Now I am off to trade some footy and make some money and not off to eat my s**t like my friend above suggests. Wonder what he is doing today??
Good Luck today and feel free to comment.
No I never change it the system is based on that first show what happens before or after I ignore
And if you see it’s likely to drift out of first two favs in several minutes? Say Horse A was 1st fav 10 min before the off with odds of 4.4, Horse B stood at 4.9, Horse C at at 5.6. Then in just about 5 minutes you see a significant change – Horse A stands at 5.2, Horse B at 4.2, Horse C at 4.7. Would you still lay Horse A? Or will you change your qualifiers? Or maybe choose to see what happens in a couple of minutes?
Nathan I don’t look at the betting until the opening show as the manual says so I have no idea what was where 2 hours before. I log on to sporting life about 10 mins before the race and take opening show only
Ian,
How do you treat situations using Bullion when a horse which was 3d favourite 1-2 hours before the race becomes 1st or 2nd favourite say 10-7 minutes before the off and then like 2 minutes before the start it drifts again to 3d one. It also matches all the criteria at RP. In this case when you pick your horses to lay such a horse supposingly will be among your picks, especially if you don’t know where it was before the opening show. So how do you solve such a case? Simply picking the selection 10-8 min before race starts and placing the bet, without caring where it was before and where it goes in 5 minutes?
Made me laugh when I read in an earlier comment this guy and I think we have established it is a guy, must have missed the Academy. I was just wondering as I read it if this guy went to public or private school and that they should sack the englsh teacher. However I have worked it out now, HE MISSED THE LOT.
Todor it is the opening show price 10 mins before the off roughly, then all bookies price the same according to show from the course
I, too, can confirm the JG results posted by Ian. It has been a great week after a bad run and I am now much more confident thinking about increasing the steaks.
I have a (probably nubie) question regarding Bullion. What is meant by “industry price”? Each bookmaker has its own price – so how is the “industry price” calculated?
You can add to the Fact that inbetween a 14.50 & 19.50 Winner you could have Scored on a 395-1 Tricast, that’s hardly ‘Shit’ now is it?? Fortunately these came on Thursday this Guys Mail was sent Tuesday – Guess he missed out then…
Hmm… Now I don’t pretend to be in JG’s League but the Mails I have received from my own Subscribers regarding the Racing have been in complete Contrast to what this ‘Gentleman’ is saying – There have been more Profitable days then not & Thursday Produced +54 Points Profit from the Best Each-Ways alone. That was not a ‘One-off’ as the majority of the Subscribers know – Complete Loser Ian who is looking for a quick Return & does not understand that Betting is all about the Long-Term Results. I have Personally made over £1000 in Profit from the last three weeks of Racing alone & that’s my own selections – Not JG’s…
Ian – if I was you I would just delete those emails after the first sentence. I can’t imagine getting 500-1000 a day ! about 50 a day at work is bad enough for me ! I have struggled with FTS recently – but instead of moaning I went back and printed off the whole of the elite blog, made notes on how you approached every game, then sat and compared them to how I did it, and made notes on how to improve. This obviously doesn’t help the 0-0 situations, but gave me a clearer strategy for other issues, like dog going 1-0 or 2-0, score draws or sendings off etc. I am much more confident now and apply the rules rather than getting emotional and stressed. The academy really helped with that as well in terms of getting into a different mindset of losses will happen and having realistic expectations of not winning every single bet/trade.
I paper traded JG for the first 3 weeks in Jan to try and work out a staking method. I settled on 2/5/10 (vSM,SM,GD) – paper profit around £80. I have continued with that method since with actual stakes, and am now £145 up (although I missed some which would have resulted in loss of £40, so should be £105 up net). Biggest losing run was around £70 at the end of Jan. However the VSM picks seem to have performed the best so far considering raising those to 5 as well.
Would be good to hear what other people do or what results people have had over a full year that have subscribd to JG before ?
Super post Graham, very well thought out and expressed.
I use a very simple staking formula for JG’s service. This consists of staking 1 unit on V Small, 2 Units on Small, 4 units on Good and a larger amount on Max bets, but not larger than I can afford to lose. I hope you find this helpful. I will get round to working out refinements based on his ratings some time and will post again when I have.
Regards to all
Ian
Ian
What an ignorant plonker your foul-keyboarded friend is! If he is a subscriber to JG’s service then he can verify the long-term results for himself since he gets all the selections emailed to him. You do need a brain cell to make money with his service (and yours of course), but he clearly hasn’t got one.
Thanks for publishing his email, it was superb entertainment.
Ian H
Our angry friend has probably missed the Academy, and more specifically the part about value of the odds and the spread sheet keeping.
I bet (haha) that he has chosen a few tips here and a few there, and thus missed JG’s big uns.
Also, I will eat my hat if he has kept a spreadsheet on his betting, so he knows where he lost, and how much.
That guy clearly needs to see a psychotherapist… or someone like me, who takes the “the” out of psychotherapist.
Either will do fine!
Cheers,
Tomas
The races I sort in the morning the selections following the criteria I make from opening show
Ian
Hi, Ian
One and the same question to both you and Graham. When did you guys make the Bullion selections? As close to the off as possible? Or in the morning maybe?
Hi dear mates,
I can confirm JG results posted above from Ian. I am subscriber of JG from the beginning of 2011 Year. It’s true there was bad runs, but overall we are in profit regards of JG selections. To be honest when was bad run, some bad feelings appears in my head, but because I have divided my bank to 60, I just saw some old JG subscriber from previous Year say about this long losing run. /I bet with level stakes, because have not found any advice how to bet with JG selections/ I survive from bad run and get dry from the water lol. So As Ian mentioned in newsletters, bank management is very very important. Be wise and be disciplined and You will have success.
All the best and please continue provided help to all members, which want to learn to win in betting world, Ian!
Regards, Preso
Hi Ian, first of all, don’t let you down about that guys.
Since i start the first of February with the JG service my bank is up with 30%.
I only bet on the Small and good bets and sometimes i miss a day when i’m away.
The trials are indeeed very nice, i’m in profit with the Fixed odds and with the Loose Cannons. The last one was yesterday fantastic with a placed horse odds 8.20.
I think some people will make profit in abour one or two weeks but that never work.
Keep on going Ian and thanks for everything
Before I became a member of the FTS community I used to take bad hits and poor runs very personally. With the help of the newsletters and reading the blog I do not feel that way anymore (well certainly not as badly!) Being part of the community and involved in many of the systems the community uses I now know that others are going through exactly the same highs and lows. During some of the recent difficult games if I have managed to trade out for a small profit near the end of a game which then takes a turn for the worst; meaning a big loss if I had stayed in, I often wonder how others in the community have got on. It is the sense of belonging that helps to keep things in perspective and the knowledge that things will be fine in the long term. As Ian says, if we work together and help each other then the benefits can be so much greater. My thanks to all.
Just goes to show – give an idiot a profitable system, and they still manage to f**k it up.
Hi Ian,
I always read this blog with interest and an open mind.
You have mentioned most of the Trials that are currently running.
However you have missed out, for some reason, the longest running trial on the website.
You may have just overlooked it.
In my opinion it is your patience that has been tried the longest.
Good luck and keep up the good work.
For anyone wishing to reply to this comment, Sycophantic is spelt this way LOL
regards
Richard
Great post Graham and many thanks for the work put in to the spreadsheet etc
Hi All
Just a few thoughts on Ian’s Blog today. I was the “Graham” who sent in the Bullion additional filter.
Perhaps after being now involved for around 3-4 months (FTS back in the summer) with the Newsletter, elite, JG & Mark/Pete, perhaps I can offer these views.
FTS – Tough time lately, even my own selections have managed to find the 0-0 at 65 mins, but equally I know that during the summer I had some great winning runs, and then lost a load through indiscipline. For me a great product especially now I have worked through my mistakes with the help of the newsletter, confident about the long run, but it is hard at the moment.
JG –as was said in the intro newsletter “There will be losing runs” and “Winning runs”, for me I am at the moment on very low stakes, I have also missed a couple of winners in the very first week due to not understanding the value. – Very low means V small EW = £5 & Small EW = £10. Now today I sit exactly on £100 profit, but have been as low as -£150. So for me I am in profit, the service is great because it’s “place the bets” and get on with life (Work I mean). So when I have worked this through and the Bank allows me to increase stakes slowly then confident it will be great. I still need to work out the relationship between JG’s Vsmall up to max bets, but I guess some of you may have a model you use and could share.
Pete & Mark Smith – These guys know what they are talking about, but for me at the moment I am struggling with my own knowledge of when to get in and out, and have ceased doing this live, mainly as I don’t have the time to focus on getting it right. I think you have to do it most days or not at all, I am sure there are people that make good money out of these services, but if you don’t invest your personal time to learn, then you can easily fail on this.
Laying (Betfair Bullion), Last summer I got into using the Betfair methodology and for some reason got into laying the 3rd favourite of a race providing it was under 6 on Betfair. I went from £1000 to £3000 in 6 weeks at stakes of £30 – £50 – then went back down to £1500 – no science on horse form at all, just maths and probability, and got greedy. So when Ian put the Betfair Bullion info out, it really was something that I had an affinity to, so looked at it a bit more. Now for those of us that were in the academy (Newsletter), the art is in money management and of course the odds. So when Ian in recent weeks has been looking at Filters and even he say that on Laying he only uses prices between 2.98 & 6, I thought well let’s just have a look at eradicating the favourite as after all I believe a favourite is favourite for a reason!!!!!!! Sure enough, a little bit of spread sheet work and hey presto, one more filter used through logic and reading over the recent months has led to this view and finding about another £2000 – maybe just maybe, I am paper trading for about 6 weeks, lets see what happens, we can publish again.
I have always believed that somehow the Stock exchange is the Rich Man’s bookies, made me smile yesterday when the stock exchange computer failed – Betfair problems ring a bell!!!! I actually now know after all the education I have been through recently, Ian’s efforts, that with skill, discipline, maths and knowledge with a range of products you will make money – after all the stock exchange peeps don’t just trade on one companies stocks – they have a portfolio that they realise that some will go up and some will go down – however you never hear the stock exchange being called a Bookies do you, but that’s exactly what it is in my opinion!
Never a great blogger, but sometimes you’ll get a long one!!!
Regards
Graham